Nate the Great vs. Carlos of Beltran

Nate the Great

I've got a great arm, make game-saving plays, and have amazing abs

No one’s going to dispute it, I’m not even going to say otherwise, but we know that overall Carlos Beltran is better than Nate Schierholtz. The big question for me going forward though is “how much better?” Enough to give him a 2/$24MM deal with a 3rd year option? (This is the deal I expect the Giants to offer)

I’m conflicted: I want Beltran back to be a force in the lineup but I want Nate’s defense in the OF without Belt having to platoon again in all of 2012 in what would probably make it a wasted year not just for Belt, but for Nate as well.

 So I wanted to investigate in the last 3 years, what is the difference between Nate and Carlos? These are all offensive stats being shown because really, is there any argument who’s better on defense? In the “difference” rows, if the number is positive it means Beltran has that much more than Nate. If negative, Nate has that much more than Beltran. Let’s take a look, shall we:

**By the way, I have no idea why the font gets so small. Would love any help in trying to fix that. Sorry for the inconvenience.**

Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B
Beltran 2011 34 TOT NL 142 598 520 78 156 39 6
Nate 2011 27 SFG NL 115 362 335 42 93 22 1
Difference 27 236 185 36 63 17 5
Beltran 2010 33 NYM NL 64 255 220 21 56 11 3
Nate 2010 26 SFG NL 137 252 227 34 55 13 3
Difference -73 3 -7 -13 1 -2 0
Beltran 2009 32 NYM NL 81 357 308 50 100 22 1
Nate 2009 25 SFG NL 116 308 285 33 76 19 2
Difference -35 49 23 17 24 3 -1

For the first time since Nate started playing a full season Beltran finally played more games than him. How convenient to do that in a career year. Beltran is well known to be a machine that could be breaking down. Nate isn’t without injury though, ending 2011 on the DL which was well chronicled. When Beltran has a 140+ G season like he does though, the number he puts up can be pretty sexy. Still though, 22 2B in 115 G for Nate is not too shabby.

Year HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG
Beltran 2011 22 84 4 2 71 88 0.300 0.385 0.525
Nate 2011 9 41 7 4 21 61 0.278 0.326 0.430
Difference 13 43 -3 -2 50 27 0.022 0.059 0.095
Beltran 2010 7 27 3 1 30 39 0.255 0.341 0.427
Nate 2010 3 17 4 5 20 38 0.242 0.311 0.366
Difference 4 10 -1 -4 10 1 0.013 0.03 0.061
Beltran 2009 10 48 11 1 47 43 0.325 0.415 0.500
Nate 2009 5 29 3 1 16 58 0.267 0.302 0.400
Difference 5 19 8 0 31 -15 0.058 0.113 0.1
I know, you’re saying “Beltran didn’t get all those HRs with the G-men.” You’re right: he had 7 since he was acquired and Nate had 9 all year. So the power would certainly be different. Beltran being as scary a hitter as he is, induces more walks, which explains the higher OBP (doesn’t account for 100% of it though). Nearly one whole point of slugging% difference though between the two. Those two together explain the difference in OPS.
Year OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
Beltran 2011 0.910 152 273 18 3 0 4 7
Nate 2011 0.756 112 144 5 4 0 2 3
Difference 0.154 40 129 13 -1 0 2 4
Beltran 2010 0.768 109 94 4 1 0 4 5
Nate 2010 0.676 85 83 3 3 1 1 5
Difference 0.092 24 11 1 -2 -1 3 0
Beltran 2009 0.915 144 154 9 1 0 1 10
Nate 2009 0.702 82 114 5 1 0 6 3
Difference 0.213 62 40 4 0 0 -5 7
Nothing really surprising here. You’d be surprised if Nate kept it close in things like total bases and OPS.
By the way, Nate’s 2011 wRC+ was 107 and Beltran’s was 153 for you statheads. For some people, that will be the answer to the difference right there.
Assuming both played 150 games in a season, if you said the difference between the two would be about 50 runs contributed towards the team total, I’d say that’s a fair estimation. There’s also going to be about $9-11MM difference between the two. So, management, what’s it gonna be?
NLAS CB

You'll give me 8 figures and I'm in my mid-30s. I might even play more than half a season for you!

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